The Founders Meant to Keep Government Out of the Church, Not God Out of the Government

Paul Strand

This is a wonderful, factual article. The left has duped American to believe a lie. Our founders were terrified of a government run church. After seeing the overreach of government these last few years, their fear is well grounded. Enjoy the article. Rh

The 4th of July makes us think of our independence and freedoms. And legal battles in recent years over religious liberty in the U.S.A. raise serious questions about the freedom to worship in America. So when our Founders came up with the First Amendment, were they trying to keep the government free from religion, or religion free from government?  

These days, the phrase “wall of separation between church and state” has come to mean keeping God or His believers from having a big effect on government and public life. But that’s far, far from what the Founding Fathers were thinking of when they were separating church and state.

Fear of an All-Powerful State Church Wed to the Power of the Government

They were afraid of what so many of the Old World countries had: a religion established by the state as its one true religion, that would tyrannically rule over the faith and conscience of every citizen.

As the Providence Forum’s Peter Lillback put it, “They recognized having a monolithic church was a dangerous thing.”  That’s because it made the king not only their physical sovereign but also their all-powerful spiritual ruler.

Before the Pilgrims fled England, Wallbuilders’ David Barton recalled, “The Pilgrims’ pastor was executed because he made the statement that Jesus Christ is head of the church. And the monarch said, ‘Oh no, I’m the head of the church. You’re dead.’”

Wouldn’t Allow a Church of America Like the Brits Had the Church of England

Knowing of such terror and tyranny, AmericanMinute.com historian William Federer explained how the Founders felt: “Their big fear was the federal government was going to follow the blueprint of every country in Europe and pick one national denomination.”

So what they meant by saying in the First Amendment “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion” was that the federal government was banned from creating – or “establishing” – a national religion with the national government wedded to it.

“They didn’t want to have a national, established Church of America like you have the Church of England, forcing people to believe something that they didn’t believe in,” said Jerry Newcombe, host of the radio program “Vocal Point”.

“What they said was, ‘We don’t want a state church here. Consciously, therefore, they were separating the church from government,” Lillback said.

But that was strictly to protect the churches and each believer’s faith and conscience from the government.

All About Protecting Each American’s Conscience and Freedom to Believe

Not only did the First Amendment say, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,” but it also said, “or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

“What they wanted was the freedom that we have in the Bible: the rights of conscience,” Barton said. “And they didn’t want the state telling us how we could or couldn’t practice our faith.”

Lillback said the Founders keeping government control away from faith meant, “Each of us has a right to be who we are before God. It has been well said and it’s a classic statement of religious liberty that man is not free unless he is free on the inside.  We have to have the freedom to believe what we believe. That’s what the First Amendment protects.”

God: He’s on Both Sides of the Wall’

And that’s what Christian historian Eddie Hyatt explained Thomas Jefferson was talking about when he wrote the letter that first used the famous “wall of separation” phrase to a group of worried Baptists.

“He said that the First Amendment had erected a wall of separation that would protect them from any intrusion of the government,” Hyatt stated. “In Jefferson’s mind, the wall of separation was a uni-directional wall, put there to keep the government out of the church; not to keep the influence of the church out of the government.”

There was no antipathy towards the Lord in all of this, Lillback insisted, saying, “But the idea of God: He’s on both sides of the wall. And He’s welcome there. And He should be.”

The Government Is Reaching Over that Wall, Bossing Around People of Faith

But today, there’s been a complete flip.

Lillback said, “Those who once believed in this really high and impregnable wall of church and state, we now see the government reaching over that wall and saying, ‘but don’t preach that text of scripture.’”  

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Barton added, “All of a sudden the government’s regulating religious activities, which is what Jefferson said they would not do because of separation of church and state.”

Hyatt lamented, “The Founders would be so distressed to see how that statement has been turned on its head.”

As Newcombe explained, “They absolutely did not mean the separation of God and government, which is what’s often being practiced today.”

No One ‘Under Government,’ but Each One ‘Under God’

Lillback encourages Americans to remember what the nation’s Founders intended.

“This is a theistic government. So God was not separated from government,” he insisted. “So any interpretation of the First Amendment that takes God out of government is turning the whole story on its head. Rather it was taking a formal state church out of the equation, leaving it up to each individual. But all, as we still say, ‘under God.’ That was the view of our Founders.”

They believed a nation based on liberty could only stay free if its citizens were godly people. As Barton pointed out, believers in God have their eyes on eternity, and it makes them practice self-control.  

Knowing You’ll Answer to God Makes You Govern Yourself

“When you’re God-conscious, you realize, ‘ya know, I’m going to have to answer to Him for what I do,’ and it limits my bad behavior,” Barton stated.

Newcombe added, “That’s something the Founders believed very strongly: that we’re going to be accountable before God.”

Hyatt said of those Founders, “They knew that they were creating a nation for a free people, but also for a virtuous people who would govern themselves from within.”

You need very little police power if people, because of conscience, will police themselves.

Green Bean Control Laws?

“Self-control is what you need,” Barton explained. “We can pass all the control laws we want. But unless you control the heart, you’ll never control behavior. I mean, I can kill somebody with a can of green beans. What are we going to do?  Pass green bean control laws if somebody does that? No. It’s on the inside.”

And the Founders knew to keep America true and free, they also needed the perfect law of a loving, all-wise God.

As Lillback put it, “There was a clear understanding that the government needed to have an ultimate check and balance, even beyond the people that ran it and their elections. And that is the transcendent law of God.  And so that is why when we look at our Declaration of Independence, there are four references to Deity.”

Going through the Declaration, Lillback laid them out: “‘We’re endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights.’ The laws of God and nature. And it tells us there’s an appeal to the Supreme Judge of the world. And, finally, a dependence on the Providence of God. Four references to Deity.”

Not Godless at All

But then came the US Constitution, which some say is a godless document because God isn’t mentioned in it. As soon as they were done with it, though, the Founders called for a day of Thanksgiving to God.

“They were not thinking ‘let’s get rid of God,'” Lillback stated. “They said, ‘We have been given now a new Constitution, and now amendments that give us our freedoms. And where do we turn? We turn to heaven and thank God for this.'”

“Now, if their intent was to get rid of God from government, boy did they miss their point,” Lillback said.  “Because they turned around and thanked Him for everything that they had. It shows the utter historical absurdity of ‘the godless Constitution’.”

Constitution’s Last Words Reference Christ

And God isn’t really absent from the Constitution or its authors’ lives.

“They are not godless,” Lillback insisted. “They are people who, at the very end of their work, said, ‘In the year of our Lord, 1787.’  The very last words in the Constitution are a reference to Jesus Christ.”

He concluded, “It’s no surprise then that the ultimate motto is We are One Nation Under God.”

Fight, Fight, Fight For The Soul Of America

To Moral Conservatives everywhere.  Let me just say this to you. We’re all the same as conservatives, myself included. We win a small skirmish and we declare victory. It’s not a victory. We just won a skirmish. We didn’t even win a battle, and we certainly didn’t win the war.

Now is the time to continue to fight just as hard or harder than we did before because if there’s one thing I know, the radical leftist will continue to fight, just like their father, the devil.  They will fight, even though the public opinion is against them.  They know we as conservatives really just want to get along with all people, especially Christians. We must learn to be on the offensive and fight, and stand ready to fight again.  

We must mobilize the greatest army we have at our disposal.  The Church! Just because President Trump was elected does not mean things are going to get better. They may even get worse. Look at what’s going on with California, the Jihad that is already within our borders. But I will tell you this. Prayer and intercession will lead us to fight this spiritual battle. We will not win this with the government alone.  We will win with moral engagement by our Pastors and churches.  We will win with prayer and intercession in the Spirit. That does not mean we do not need to be engaged in the political arena. We must!  It is our sacred duty!  Pastors must lead their flock to keep them informed and equipped to fight this battle. Moral issues demand a moral answer and the answer is Jesus Christ. If your church, your pastor is not involved in  this fight, they are missing out on a glorious opportunity to win a victory for our children. Lead or get out of the way.  If you don’t, someone will, and they will receive your anointing and your victory.

God established good government.  How can it be good if we have ceded it over to Lucifer?  What we are fighting today are all moral issues.  That is right in the wheelhouse of Ekklesia. This is the church’s mandate  (Ephesians 3:10 to the intent now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places.  Let’s do this.

  • Inform
  • Equip
  • Alert
  • Mobilize

Stand up, speak out, and make a difference.  With love and compassion. 

Pray, Engage, and Impact

Cultural Controversies Headed to the Supreme Court

It is time for the conservatives on the Supreme court to take a stand against the immoral practices pushed on the citizens of the United States. Tennessee passed a law prohibiting trans gender surgeries on minors, and right on cue the Biden-Kamala administration seek to overturn the protection of minors being mutilated. Well let’s see what the august body in intellectual minds have to say about this. See link below to read the full article. Rh

https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/cultural-controversies-to-headline-new-supreme-court-term

Christian Perspective on the 2024 Election

First off, Christians have a moral duty to vote and to vote Biblical values.  Pastors or church members who say we should not get involved in elections are checking out of society.  Governmental decisions directly impact all areas of life.  When the Church is silent, evil and greedy power hungry politicians are free to destroy our country.  We must vote!   Look at the moral issues of today.  Are not Pastors and church members supposed to speak into the immorality that we are witnessing on a daily basis?  Yes!

As a Christian there are certain issues I can not vote for.  What does the Bible say?  Does your candidate or party platform endorse these anti God issues?  If so, the choice is simple.  You can’t as a Christian vote for these people.  Case closed.

Nonstarters for me are, abortion, transgender surgeries, homosexual marriage, porn in our school libraries, promoting the gender dystopia in our schools or society, lgbtq+ and since breaking the law is sin, open borders.  We cannot allow immorality and we can’t permit our country to be overrun by people who want to be in America and not be Americans. These are the moral issues only, not to mention high taxation, inflation, energy independence, rule of law and other issues that are more governmental instead of moral.

Christian cannot praise Jesus on Sunday and vote for immorality on Tuesday.  Case closed.  Tell it to Jesus

One candidate and party has embraced all the immoral issues that I could never accept.  So not voting for her or anyone else identified with “that party” is an easy decision.

Now comes the hard part.  The other candidate and party has softened its commitment to life, while still professing a stance of support for the Pro Life position. Going so far as to blame Pro Life supporters for losses in the 2022 midterms. Not good.  Having a fund raiser with a pro gay and lgbtq group. Again a horrible look. Hmm that doesn’t look or sound very good.  This candidate is very good on Israel, energy, ending wars, the border and the economy.  This candidate also appointed many conservative judges including three on the Supreme Court. See the conundrum.  The moving away from traditional Biblical values is frightening to me.  But in the final analysis a candidate that loves America and wants the best for its people and is pro freedom of speech and religion is a big plus.  

In the final analysis one Party and candidate is an absolute NO for moral and ethical reasons.  The other Party and candidate have major flaws, yes major, but is by far the best hope for America at this time. Do I wish a more conservative Godly man or woman were running? Absolutely!!  Is he going to save America? No! Only a true spirit of repentance, and a return to our Godly roots will be the only hope for us.  We are on the brink of destruction.  This is the most important election in our history.  Will we still be a nation after this election, yes but what kind?

I will vote for Trump with my nose pinched and hope for better days.  Which quite honestly I have done for almost all Presidential elections in my lifetime. The saddest part of this composition is the fact that if close to one-half of our country truly will vote for the democratic “Demonic Duo”, we have lost the status of “A Christian Nation”.  

The truth is we are not voting for a Pastor, but the leader of the free world!  A Samson who takes the jaw bone of a donkey and destroys the enemies of the United States of America.  

If my people…will return to me saith the Lord! 2 Chronicles 7:14. Rh